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Re: Inconsistencies in Hawkins' work? | #11 |
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I have always been pretty bad at math so the calibrations were never really as important to me as other things that he has written about. Reading Dr. Hawkins work has changed my life on a very profound level. That is really what is important. Those who are ready for his message will receive it. His teachings resonated very deeply with me. I don't care if other people think I am a kook or a flake or if they don't believe in his work. It makes me feel better when I read his books. Each time I reread one I get even more out of it. I am very thankful that he has taken the time to write the things that he has written. To me they are invaluable.
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Posted on: 2010/1/20 2:54
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Posted on: 2010/1/20 6:15
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Re: A very useful map to have... | #13 |
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this is not quite so, Robert, Dr. Hawkins gives quite a few recommendations for committed students. waste no time. go straight on, for example. more you can find here: http://de.spiritualwiki.org/Hawkins/Recommendations |
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Posted on: 2010/1/20 11:07
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Re: A very useful map to have... | #14 |
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Hi Katalys I think that there may be a difference between asking someone to do something, and recommending that someone do something. The former involves wanting the other person to do something, and the latter involves giving them the implicit option of doing it or not. :P My main point was that a true spiritual teacher will not interfer in the private life of a student, nor tell him or her what to do. Based upon where a student is on the path, or a particular student's prompting, the teacher might give the student a prescription - it is there choice whether they choose to use it... Robert |
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Posted on: 2010/1/20 13:05
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Re: A very useful map to have... | #15 |
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to me asking is not commandeering, Robert. asking is like inviting. to recommend spiritual practices is what is expected and asked from a spiritual teacher. controlling and forcing is in the domain of the unreal. it does not re-spect human dignity and accountable choice. Quote: The former involves wanting the other person to do something, and the latter involves giving them the implicit option of doing it or not. a friend may tell me what they want from me and i like to have the choice to comply or not. Quote: My main point was that a true spiritual teacher will not interfer in the private life of a student, nor tell him or her what to do. concur. a student will ask a spiritual teacher what to do preferably. however, the teacher is INSIDE. the Holy Spirit unites us in SELF. thanks for offering this exchange. |
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Posted on: 2010/1/20 15:24
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Just addressing Pachelbeld's ACIM comments because these same thoughts have gone through my head.
On the lectures I've seen doc has always said you stop going weak kinesiologically to things like sugar, florescent light, artificial sweeteners, things like that at around lesson 76. The doc then says the lesson states "I am only subject to what I hold in mind."....which of course it doesn't. It does state "I am under no laws but God's". Like you I found lesson 338 and found it to be the closest to what the doc was talking about. I think that it's been probably 40 or more years since the doc did the course so it's not fresh in his mind. Also if he sees more in context than content then maybe the essence of 76 is closer to what DH said. In the explanatory text under 76 it states the following Quote:
That's a partial quote, but I think what doc is saying may be closer to the essence of the lesson. And of course he went a step further in having a method of cancelling out belief in these other laws. In Healing and Recovery whenever a thought of the illness arises you say "I am not subject to this. I am an infinite being. I am subject only to what I hold in mind." Lately I've felt like I often state and restate the same things in my posts. Hope I haven't done it again. Peace. |
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Posted on: 2010/1/23 15:14
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At some lecture (August 2008) he said that Abraham Lincoln calibrates at 498 and that The Gettysburg Address calibrates at 505. That's according to the notes I've read of that lecture. I doubt an US President calibrated about the same as a Pope. |
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Posted on: 2010/1/23 21:33
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Lincoln does calibrate at 565.
DRH talks about this in one of his books (forgot which one) that Lincoln saw that the fight between North and South wasn't about us versus them, but a battle between man's higher nature and his lower nature. He never showed any hatred for the South all through the war. It takes a significant level of consciousness for him to have realized this and be in a position to act upon it. A good amount historians consider him the US greatest President. The discrepancy in the LoC is as katalys said; you can expect the guy to recall from memory every single LoC out of the thousands he has done. He is going to get things mixed-up every so often. |
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There are heaps of confusion about the metaphysics of ACIM: we are only subject to what we hold in mind because there is only mind, everything else is an illusion. And what do we hold in mind? Well, according to the Course we hold a belief in separation. Recall ACIM is written on two levels: Level One contrasts the reality of God with the illusion of the ego's thought system and the world that arose from it. Level Two treats only the illusory world, contrasting the ego's wrong-minded thought system of separation with with the Holy Spirit's right-minded thought system. Confusion of these levels makes the Course quite difficult. Jesus is asking us in the lesson quoted above to look at our investment in our dependence on money, etc. He isn't telling us to give them up. Jesus is helping us to shift from the body to the mind on every page of the Course. |
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Posted on: 2010/2/2 20:45
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Re: A very useful map to have... | #20 |
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I came across my set of Hawkins CDs entitled "Giving Up Illness Through A Course In Miracles" the other week. Yeah, he makes errors regarding ACIM. In addition to that aforementioned "magical" lesson that doesn't exist he also says at one point, "There is a lesson that says _____," and quotes a well-known line from the text, not the workbook. Yet does all this even matter? He has demonstrated the content of ACIM in his life. What else could be important? Being a scholar of ACIM is meaningless but it is important to get the metaphysics right, which he mostly does.
What was interesting was another speaker who knew Hawkins from way back and mentioned what a pathetic figure the doctor was before coming to ACIM. |
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Posted on: 2010/2/16 20:51
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