hello guys!

There is a new guy in the seduction community named Rion Williams and his site www.rionwilliams.com he is very integrous. He talks about avoiding manupulation, being casual to women, seeing women in their true nature, he recommends watching movies and listen to music that if you notice calibrate above LOC 200 (even though he does not mention LOC) ... etc.

Would please someone calibrate Rion Williams and his materials please... I would like to know.

I get about neutral for the material (250).

thanks

Sight unseen, I get 190. I'm sorry but you're just going to have to get over this idea that the "seduction community" can be integrous. It is all based on Pride. This idea that you can seduce women so that you can have a bevy of beauties hanging off your arm and the requisite status that goes with is just nonsense. Any techniques that teach you how to "date loads of women" are operating in an energy of Pride and are primarily image-related no matter how they gussy it up with nice talk. The way that sex is sanctified is by the energy field of Love and monogamy. The core of the so-called "seduction community" is based on the mating instinct, which Dr. Hawkins calibrates at the level of Desire (LoC 125).

Of course, if that's what you want to do, then fine. But, you needn't ask permission by continually calibrating different systems, when the primary motivation for all these systems is all at about the same energy level.

Michael

Regardless of whether the material calibrates in the mid-200s or just below 200, I second Michael's take on the topic on the whole.

thank you guys!
thank you... thank you... thank you

Gabriel

To make it clear, I fully agree with Michael's analysis even as our calibrations differ and especially his warning against constant calibration requests.

It is not my purpose to promote some or any seduction gurus. It may be also noted that neutral phenomena like money and sex are the prime targets for our projections, drives and other subconscious material (i.e. people have for some reasons less judgments and opinions about Ayn Rand (400) or feminism (335) than they have of money and sex). It may be beneficial to do psychodynamic work with the subconscious but it surely is a fruitless and likely harmful pursuit to accumulate sex or money. YMMV.

Well, to be fair, I'm looking at the essence of the issue. It's a fact that integrous people can have non-integrous motivations. Regardless of the LoC of the teachers involved, the actual motivation behind the systems they teach is pride and image-based.

So, it is possible that, having not actually looked at the material, I was calibrating the motivation behind the system (eager as I was to emphasize my point), whereas you might have been focusing on the actual teacher.

I will say I'm glad if someone like that is encouraging integrity through music and other cultural forms but I worry that it's trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Michael

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I find this a very interesting thread. Lol, I was on of those people. That is where I first heard of PvF.

Regardless of all the hubbub there is core or segment of people who will branch of into finding the spiritual path. So in a sense there is something good that comes out of the 'community'. For me even from the beggining I quickly found distaste with stuff like the Mystery Method as I saw it as simply trying to trick women into liking you. But I did like the 'communities' self-improvement aspect that it did advocate and help people to achieve.


Truly, if a person wants to go down this path, you don't need any of those techniques that are sold from the 'community'. All you have to do is raise your LoC and people will be drawn to you and you will be in more integreous relationships.

I know this is an old post but I ran across this while surfing the web...

I have heard of the person-in-mention (Stephane) a while back.
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I believe this is a good example of someone misusing Dr. Hawkins teachings and calibration system. To either fluff themselves up for their own ego or to delude others.

There was a big fallout among a lot of his followers and this guy Stephane and his teachings, in which he had cult-like control over people and was misusing the calibrations as a means to control his group.

He set himself up to be a great guru and teacher, and any questioning of his teaching were met with instant banning from his group forum. Any he would justify it saying any questioning of him calibrates below 200. Not to mention he misuses Dr. Hawkins teachings of free speech as a justification to censor and ban people.

At one point he started to calibrate himself at 600, then at 700, and his spiritual student/girlfriend at 600. He calibrated his closest followers at 500 and 400. And the forum he ran became a contest of who could reach the highest calibration.

He also had these pills which he claimed came from a secret renegade nano scientist that he claimed could cure any disease and even enlarge your penis, for $1000. But the catch was you had to believe in it for it to work, if it didn't work that means you didn't believe. when one guy ask him to provide evidence he was promtly banned.

This is an extreme example of some misusing Dr. Hawkins teachings, to further their own ends and to fluff up their ego, which is the exact opposite of true spirituality in accordance with Dr. Hawkins teaching.


Here are some of the quotes the guy made in his Forum:

“The more enlightened i become, the greater your chances of getting there too, just by virtue of being in a room with me. I know the way out of hell.”

-“It’s up to you to choose to be humble about it and view me as your Teacher, with a capitol “T”. I have earned that level of respect and that title.”

-“The real answer is they have student/teacher syndrome, in which jealousy and pride prevent them from doing anything other than pathetic little attempts to prove to themselves that they are more evolved than I am. It’s fallacious.”

-“I recently made the jump to 602, which is the first stages of true Enlightenment. I am completely un-identified from my mind and body, and could literally choose to walk out of this body and leave for good. I have no more human karma, as i have mastered the linear world of form.”

-“Just know that I’m a lot quicker than you are, and my wisdom exceeds yours significantly. At the end of our debate, I’ll need you to say, “Thanks Stephane, for helping to raise my consciousness” – AND, you’ll also have to buy the GTP.”