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Re: Self-Calibration of some books on my bookshelf | #11 |
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Prior to the publishing of TvF Doctor Hawkins showed some of his calibrations to people in the lectures. The early version of the table at the end with Hatha Yoga and all that had 'Sedona Releasing' on it calibrated at 490.
The rumor is that "The Work" by Byron Katie is at about the same level despite the fact that her own calibration apparently is much higher.(As Levenson also was higher than 490). There are certain discrepancies though with those and the ones ultimately published. As often happens they are refined depending on what aspects are held in mind. My initial instinct with releasing was that it had to be quite high and I've found it very valuable as a skill. The organization marketing it is not that high. In fact it's sub 200. Rob, Your calibrations seem pretty on from what I know. At least hitting the ball park. Peace |
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Re: Self-Calibration of some books on my bookshelf | #12 |
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Oops. Quite right. Meanwhile, I did some poking around of my own with some on my shelf. 750's Perfect Wisdom - The Short Prajnaparamita Texts as translated by Edward Conze 560 Philosophical Texts by St. Thomas Aquinas 550's The Essential Writings of Frithjof Schuon 511-519 The Philosophic Basis of Mysticism by T.H. Hughes 501-509 The Breath of God by Swami Chetanananda 480's Cosmic Consciousness edited by R.M. Bucke 440's The Hidden Gospel by Neil Douglas-Klotz 430 The Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning 420's Out of My Later Years (compiled writings by Einstein, mainly from the 30's and 40's) A few side notes on the above... Hughes calibrated in the 440's at the time he wrote the Philosophical Basis of Mysticism. With the book in the 500's, I checked, not having read it yet myself, and found that it contained a lot of quoting. He pulled together what appears to be some good stuff, drawing it into his own - thus, a probable reason for the difference. Another case where there is a discrepancy is with Swami Chetanananda. Apparently, his LoC may have been below 200 at the time of the writing. It's possible that he was parroting things that he knew from before any fall or regurgitating understanding passed on by his teachers (one of whom was apparently on a fallen list). The intention behind his teaching may have been rooted in self-gain. I could swear that St. Thomas Aquinas was calibrated in TvF, but couldn't find it. How does his Philosophical Texts sit in relation? I would also assume that the addition of God to philosophy raised the level - I believe philosophy itself calibrates in the 400's... anyone able to confirm? Bucke, who edited Cosmic Consciousness calibrated at 505 according to TvF. The book is actually slightly lower than his own LoC, something we also see with WilbEr if our calibrations are correct. Thanks, Rob, for the inspiration to do a little bit of testing of my own here! And for shushes and giggles... The overall cal. of all the books currently sitting on our left hand bookshelf (mix of religion / spiritual / science / history and a few alternative-crackpot theory type books) is between 401-409. The higher end books balancing any lower ones are the Lamsa Bible, King James Bible, Eye of the I, I:R&S, and the Prajnaparamita Texts listed above. Tim |
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Re: Self-Calibration of some books on my bookshelf | #13 |
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by Robcore on 2008/1/22 20:59:51
Quote: And here are book calibrations from other sources(inl. VonBegg from above): I noticed that there are some included which are on that site I mentioned the other day, also. And the calibrations seem to be the same. http://de.spiritualwiki.org/Hawkins/BigTable a site which is supposed to be updated regularly, as it is mentioned there. As a "proof", sorry, "illustration" for context, I just would like to add a point I found on that site... Quote:
Translation of "...": "used as a name of God". and: - on the same site: Quote: 740 no translation needed, I think. Quite a few times I see on that site that Buddhist uses calibrate lower than Hindu uses. Just an observation, and I spare you my own ideas about that. I think I would need to know what Hawkins' (?) Sedona seminar is. ps: thanks for the Jonathan-Livingston-Seagull, that is about my own estimation. Still curious (well, yes, curious, -while being curious I will not know it  ) about Bill Harris. |
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Re: Self-Calibration of some books on my bookshelf | #14 |
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oups sorry I had a typo in my last post: "/quotes" instead of "/quote"
 Only the very above was from Rob. (until the quoteS...) sorry, cannot edit. |
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Posted on: 2008/1/23 3:12
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Re: Self-Calibration of some books on my bookshelf | #15 |
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Tim,
These are very interesting calibrations. Keep them coming. Although I haven't seen a book that I actually have other Dr. Hawkins' books, I still find it interesting. It certainly will make it easier if I ever come across these books and consider buying one. By the way, when you calibrate the books, do you actually need to have them present or could I give you a title to calibrate? Michael |
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Posted on: 2008/1/23 11:12
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By the way, when you calibrate the books, do you actually need to have them present or could I give you a title to calibrate? With all due respect, I do not think anybody here is offering to do your calibrations for you. That seems like a manipulative question. |
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Posted on: 2008/1/23 12:11
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Re: Self-Calibration of some books on my bookshelf | #17 |
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Cool stuff everyone.
Here's what I've compiled so far (keeping my own calibrations seperate just for my own records): 965 - Transcending the Levels of Consciousness, by David R. Hawkins 525 - Love, by Leo Buscaglia 520 - Confessions of St. Augustine, Translated by F.J. Sheed 510 - The Road Less Traveled-25th Anniversary Edition, by M. Scott Peck 505 - The Image of His Maker, by Robert Edward Brennan, O.P. 490 - Descartes' Discourse on Method and Meditations on First Philosophy 4th Ed., Translated by Donald A. Cress 480 - A New Earth, by Eckhart Tolle 475 - Plato's Gorgias, Translated by Donald J. Zeyl 475 - Feminist Issues: Race, Class, and Sexuality 4th Ed. edited by Nancy Mandell 470 - How to Enjoy Your Life in Spite of it All, by Ken Keyes, Jr. 465 - Plato's Five Dialogues: Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Meno, Phaedo 2nd Ed., Translated by G.M.A. Grube 465 - Three Dialogues Between Hylas and Philonous, by George Berkeley 460 - The Essential Ken Wilber, by Ken Wilber 450 - The Sedona Method, by Hale Dwoskin 450 - The Alchemist, by Paulo Coelho 450 - Utilitarianism and the 1868 Speech on Capital Punishment 2nd Ed., by John Stuart Mill 450 - The Question of God, by Armand M. Nicholi, Jr. 440 - An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding with A Letter from a Gentleman to His Friend in Edinburgh and Hume's Abstract of A Treatise of Human Nature, by David Hume 430 - The Problems of Philosophy, by Bertrand Russell 420 - Good Business, by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi 376 - Unequal Relations: An Introduction to Race, Ethnic, and Aboriginal Dynamics in Canada 5th Ed., by Augie Fleras and Jean Leonard Elliott 340 - Irish Red, by Jim Kjelgaard 340 - Beardance, by Will Hobbs 330 - Eat, Pray, Love, by Elizabeth Gilbert 225 - Underground to Canada, by Barbara Smucker 215 - The White Mountains, by John Christopher 212 - Race Against Time 2nd Ed., by Stephen Lewis 210 - Leaving Home, by David French 205 - The First Nations of British Columbia 2nd Ed., by Robert J. Muckle And here are book calibrations from other sources: 999.8 - I: Reality and Subjectivity, by David R. Hawkins 980 - The Eye of the I - From Which Nothing Is Hidden, by David R. Hawkins 970 - The Upanishads 910 - The Bhagavad Gita 905 - The Zohar 895 - Nicene Creed 880 - Lamsa Bible(minus the OT, Revelation, but incl. Gen, Psalms, Proverbs) 850 - Power vs. Force: The Hidden Determinants of Human Behaviour, by David R. Hawkins 840 - Dhammapada 810 - Ramayana 795 - Zen Teachings of Bodhidharma 790 - New Testament(King James Version minus Book of Revelation) 780 - Lotus Sutra 780 - Heart Sutra 750 - Perfect Wisdom: The Short Prajnaparamita Texts, as translated by Edward Conze 740 - Yoga Sutras of Patanjali 720 - The Koran 705 - The Cloud of Unknowing 710 - Shankara 699 - Gospel of St. Luke 660 - Genesis(Lamsa Bible) 660 - Gospel of St. Thomas 650 - Psalms(Lamsa Bible) 640 - New Testament(King James Version from the Greek) 610 - Tao te Ching 600 - A Course in Miracles(Workbook) 595 - Chuang Tsu 560 - Philosophical Texts by St. Thomas Aquinas 550 - The Essential Writings of Frithjof Schuon 550 - A Course in Miracles(textbook) 511 - 519 - The Philosophic Basis of Mysticism, by T.H. Hughes 501 - 509 - The Breath of God, by Swami Chetanananda 495 - Lamsa Bible(From the Aramaic) 480 - Cosmic Consciousness, edited by R.M. Bucke 475 - King James Bible(From the Greek) 440 - The Hidden Gospel, by Neil Douglas-Klotz 430 - I Ching 430 - The Ragamuffin Gospel, by Brennan Manning 420 - Out of My Later Years (compiled writings of Einstein, mainly from the 30's and 40's) 405 - The Book of Mormon 400 - Gnostic Gospels 400 - Jonathan Livingston Seagull, by Richard Bach 350 - Proverbs(Lamsa Bible) 265 - The Dead Sea Scrolls 160 - The Skeptic's Dictionary, by Robert T. Carroll 70 - The Book of Revelation(New Testament) ...I don't recall adding anything to my list of calibrations...but I added a bunch more to the lower list...many picked up from the spiritualwiki page. -Rob |
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Re: Self-Calibration of some books on my bookshelf | #18 |
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VonBegg... Some don't have the feel for kineseology. My own ability to feel my response comes and goes and some never really find the feel of how their body responds. If you were to ask here, you'd probably find that most who post here either don't test or haven't found the knack. Perhaps we'd feel differently about Hawkins if he refused to give any calibrations and told us to do them all ourselves... wouldn't come across quite right, would it? I feel that his question isn't meant to be manipulative - he's asking straight out if someone would be willing. Nothing wrong with that. Michael... No, it's not mandatory that a book be in front of you to calibrate it, just as you can calibrate a historical person without having met them. If you post the books you're interested in, perhaps someone will calibrate them for you. Personally, I usually stick to things I have. Honestly, I also rarely calibrate. The flurry of calibrations I did here were inspired by the moment... a little wild hair, I suppose. Tim |
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Re: Self-Calibration of some books on my bookshelf | #19 |
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New ones:
490 - On Death and Dying, by Elizabeth Kubler-Ross 720 - I Am That: Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj 511 - The Monastic Journey, by Thomas Merton 501 - Man's Search for Meaning, by Viktor E. Frankl 710 - Prayer: Seeking the Heart of God, by Mother Teresa of Calcutta and Brother Roger of Taize 700 - God is Love Alone, by Brother Roger of Taize 400 - Philosophy of Natural Science, by Carl Hempel And the compiled list: 965 - Transcending the Levels of Consciousness, by David R. Hawkins 720 - I Am That: Talks with Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj 710 - Prayer: Seeking the Heart of God, by Mother Teresa of Calcutta and Brother Roger of Taize 700 - God is Love Alone, by Brother Roger of Taize 525 - Love, by Leo Buscaglia 520 - Confessions of St. Augustine, Translated by F.J. Sheed 511 - The Monastic Journey, by Thomas Merton 510 - The Road Less Traveled-25th Anniversary Edition, by M. Scott Peck 505 - The Image of His Maker, by Robert Edward Brennan, O.P. 501 - Man's Search for Meaning, by Viktor E. Frankl 490 - On Death and Dying, by Elizabeth Kubler-Ross 490 - Descartes' Discourse on Method and Meditations on First Philosophy 4th Ed., Translated by Donald A. Cress 480 - A New Earth, by Eckhart Tolle 475 - Plato's Gorgias, Translated by Donald J. Zeyl 475 - Feminist Issues: Race, Class, and Sexuality 4th Ed. edited by Nancy Mandell 470 - How to Enjoy Your Life in Spite of it All, by Ken Keyes, Jr. 465 - Plato's Five Dialogues: Euthyphro, Apology, Crito, Meno, Phaedo 2nd Ed., Translated by G.M.A. Grube 465 - Three Dialogues Between Hylas and Philonous, by George Berkeley 460 - The Essential Ken Wilber, by Ken Wilber 450 - The Sedona Method, by Hale Dwoskin 450 - The Alchemist, by Paulo Coelho 450 - Utilitarianism and the 1868 Speech on Capital Punishment 2nd Ed., by John Stuart Mill 450 - The Question of God, by Armand M. Nicholi, Jr. 440 - An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding with A Letter from a Gentleman to His Friend in Edinburgh and Hume's Abstract of A Treatise of Human Nature, by David Hume 430 - The Problems of Philosophy, by Bertrand Russell 420 - Good Business, by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi 400 - Philosophy of Natural Science, by Carl Hempel 376 - Unequal Relations: An Introduction to Race, Ethnic, and Aboriginal Dynamics in Canada 5th Ed., by Augie Fleras and Jean Leonard Elliott 340 - Irish Red, by Jim Kjelgaard 340 - Beardance, by Will Hobbs 330 - Eat, Pray, Love, by Elizabeth Gilbert 225 - Underground to Canada, by Barbara Smucker 215 - The White Mountains, by John Christopher 212 - Race Against Time 2nd Ed., by Stephen Lewis 210 - Leaving Home, by David French 205 - The First Nations of British Columbia 2nd Ed., by Robert J. Muckle And here are book calibrations from other sources: 999.8 - I: Reality and Subjectivity, by David R. Hawkins 980 - The Eye of the I - From Which Nothing Is Hidden, by David R. Hawkins 970 - The Upanishads 910 - The Bhagavad Gita 905 - The Zohar 895 - Nicene Creed 880 - Lamsa Bible(minus the OT, Revelation, but incl. Gen, Psalms, Proverbs) 850 - Power vs. Force: The Hidden Determinants of Human Behaviour, by David R. Hawkins 840 - Dhammapada 810 - Ramayana 795 - Zen Teachings of Bodhidharma 790 - New Testament(King James Version minus Book of Revelation) 780 - Lotus Sutra 780 - Heart Sutra 750 - Perfect Wisdom: The Short Prajnaparamita Texts, as translated by Edward Conze 740 - Yoga Sutras of Patanjali 720 - The Koran 705 - The Cloud of Unknowing 710 - Shankara 699 - Gospel of St. Luke 660 - Genesis(Lamsa Bible) 660 - Gospel of St. Thomas 650 - Psalms(Lamsa Bible) 640 - New Testament(King James Version from the Greek) 610 - Tao te Ching 600 - A Course in Miracles(Workbook) 595 - Chuang Tsu 560 - Philosophical Texts by St. Thomas Aquinas 550 - The Essential Writings of Frithjof Schuon 550 - A Course in Miracles(textbook) 511 - 519 - The Philosophic Basis of Mysticism, by T.H. Hughes 501 - 509 - The Breath of God, by Swami Chetanananda 495 - Lamsa Bible(From the Aramaic) 480 - Cosmic Consciousness, edited by R.M. Bucke 475 - King James Bible(From the Greek) 440 - The Hidden Gospel, by Neil Douglas-Klotz 430 - I Ching 430 - The Ragamuffin Gospel, by Brennan Manning 420 - Out of My Later Years (compiled writings of Einstein, mainly from the 30's and 40's) 405 - The Book of Mormon 400 - Gnostic Gospels 400 - Jonathan Livingston Seagull, by Richard Bach 350 - Proverbs(Lamsa Bible) 265 - The Dead Sea Scrolls 160 - The Skeptic's Dictionary, by Robert T. Carroll 70 - The Book of Revelation(New Testament) -Rob |
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Posted on: 2008/1/24 0:53
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Re: Self-Calibration of some books on my bookshelf | #20 |
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Thanks for the calibrations for the Taize books! I wasn't aware of them really, but I have been going to Taize for awhile and it is constantly amazing. Not surprised at all for those calibrations.
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Posted on: 2008/1/24 2:09
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